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wigglesd
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2004-Dec-10 4:05 pm

[Primus] Which Router for Lingo?

Can anyone make any technical recommendations for which router to get for Lingo? From what I can tell there are two options:

1) The unit Lingo provides
2) The D-Link DVG-1402S/L VoIp and router. [ »www.dlink.com/products/?pid=361 ]

From a straight features/flexibility/cost I am currently leaning towards the D-Link.

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laserjobs

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2004-Dec-10 4:57 pm

Which ever one costs less?

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Goughy
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2004-Dec-10 5:55 pm

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I recently got the DVG-1402S/L from monarchtechnology.

Installation was a breeze and no issues with the service so far.

There is currently a $50 rebate from D-Link (depending on where it was purchased), and having this retail router means there is no connection fee and no cancellation fee.

Seemed like a no-brainer to me! Even if I cancel after the first month, I am only about $49 out (+ monthly charges)but get to keep the router.

-Richard

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caseydoug
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2004-Dec-10 7:00 pm

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It's a pain to unlock the AzaCall and UTStarcom devices if you ever want to use them for a provider other than Lingo. Just curious: is the D-Link any different in this regard?

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Goughy
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2004-Dec-10 10:16 pm

It would seem that the DVG-1402S/L is locked. From »www.lingosupport.com/faq ··· .html#12

Will my router still work if I cancel Lingo?
If you decide to cancel the Lingo service your Lingo compatible router will still function as a router for your home networking needs. You cannot sign up for another internet phone service using this router.

I suspect that the DVG-1402S (without the /L and which seems to be available from outpost.com) is not locked to Lingo, but I haven't checked it out.

-Richard

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wigglesd
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2005-Jan-11 10:44 am

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Just as an update:

I bought the D-Link DVG1402 S/L, got the $50 rebate, signed up on the Lingo web site, plugged the D-Link into my existing router (Linksys WRT54GS), watched the lights flash and about 10 minutes later I had dial tone. (note that this is not the recommended configuration by Lingo, however I think I read somewhere that the WRT54GS with the most recent firmware has VOIP support built in. Well either I dreamt it or read it!)

Works great, used it to call Europe and Asia for an hour or so never dropped or had audio problems.

One thing to note is that I bought a UPS and I run all my routers and cable modem off it. I have noted that since I did this the logs in the cable modem have gotten much shorter and that the apparent number of errors/problems with the cable modem talking to the headend have significantly reduced. Typically the only entry in the log is a "DHCP Renew" warning. Either way the reliability of the entire broadband connection is much better and I get less calls from my wife saying the "Internet isn't working" so I'm happy.

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laserjobs

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2005-Jan-11 11:08 am

Now did Lingo tell you about the misrepresented rate increase when you signed up?

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wigglesd
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2005-Jan-11 11:27 am

No, but it doesn't surprise me. The lawyers for all the VOIP companies are doing their risk mitigation jobs in order that when the FCC comes knocking they have the money in the bank to pay rather than having to come directly out of their bottom line.

Net-net I am still saving lots of money each month over verizon and ATT bills and I can talk a whole lot more without worrying about the usage part of the bill increasing.

I don't like getting taxed, but I think it is inevitable for VOIP, however I prefer getting taxed less than before.

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laserjobs

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2005-Jan-11 11:32 am

Please write Lingo a letter about this BS rate hike before your VOIP bill starts reaching your old POTS bill.

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2005-Jan-11 1:24 pm

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Absolutely, give lingo some hell or you may find rate hikes every six months until your VOIP bill is as bloated as your POTS bill was.

As to routers, you can use the adapter that lingo sends or the retail dlink. However you won't be able to access a lot of standard router features, as the will be password locked in the supervisor menu. A linksys wrt54g router for one works fine in front of lingo. A dlink 614 does not. You can search this forum for a few other router recommendations. If you use your own router, then any problem with lingo won't pull your whole network down.

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med1234
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At this point almost ever provider has the $1.50 charge, so not much you can do there back to the question, if I understand you correctly, you want to know which router to use with Lingo. I had mine behind a SMC 7004VW and had prblems with dropped calls all the time, tweaking the SPI and DMZ'ng the Lingo adaptor with a static IP did not help. Bought what most consider to be a junky Netgear 614 router and have had no issues since. No DMZ or turning off SPI. Have it setup with a static IP.

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med1234

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2005-Jan-11 1:30 pm

Ignore my post above, you are undecided on the adaptor/router.

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2005-Jan-11 2:13 pm

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To stay with the topics (there's plenty of other threads to talk about tax) -- I am using an older D-Link DI-614+ with Lingo's UT Starcom.

I am planning to connect my POTS line to it so I can have failover, and play around with the digit map to get 911 outward calls routed through the POTS line.

Does the DVG-1402 have the same features?

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2005-Jan-11 2:19 pm

said by bbrlogue:

Does the DVG-1402 have the same features?

No, it doesn't. BTW I got mine from Outpost and it was locked to Lingo. Working well so far, except for incoming Caller ID(grr!), behind a SMC7004BR.

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caseydoug
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2005-Jan-11 3:53 pm

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Has anyone tried signing up with Lingo with a used AzaCall or UTStarcom? I'd bet there are quite a few floating around at a good price, and it should be quite easy for Lingo to attach new configuration files to the MAC address of a box that it has previously provisioned.

As to routers, the general experience here is that Lingo does not do well with business class routers or those with Stateful Packet Inspection (SPI), with the exception of the Linksys WRT54Gx.

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2005-Jan-11 5:08 pm

*cough* get a cisco *cough* [Primus] Which Router for Lingo? - VOIP Tech Chat (13)

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caseydoug
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2005-Jan-11 5:19 pm

Oh yes, I forgot. Get Cisco. And then hire LilYoda to program it for you.;)

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The ciscos are capable of just about anything and hell to program if you are not familiar with them.

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I'm cheap, I just ask you to offer me a room and food until I'm done programming your router [Primus] Which Router for Lingo? - VOIP Tech Chat (18)

Nah, seriously, it ain't that bad, but I'll post a tempalte with Class of Service etc... soon. Still trying to figure out one last piece of the puzzle for best voice quality...

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caseydoug
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2005-Jan-11 10:16 pm

Does your Cisco have QoS?

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said by LilYoda:

I'm cheap, I just ask you to offer me a room and food until I'm done programming your router [Primus] Which Router for Lingo? - VOIP Tech Chat (21)

LilYoda, my router's okay. Would you happen to have any experience whipping provider's (lingo) into shape? &nbsp [Primus] Which Router for Lingo? - VOIP Tech Chat (22)

--
Email lingo about the misrepresented 18% rate hike: psingh@primustel.com,nhazard@primustel.com,tkloster@primustel.com,jdepodesta@primustel.com,t book@primustel.com,smcintyre@primustel.com,anayar@primustel.com,tlawson@primustel.com,mguirg is@primustel.com,jmelick@primustel.com,jrosenblatt@primustel.com,ghicks@primustel.com,mmagil l@primustel.com

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said by caseydoug:

Does your Cisco have QoS?

Yeah, 3 classes of data + one of VoIP...
Still having trouble forcing the router to fragment low priority data packets cause they can cause serialization delay in some cases, but otherwise, it's all good.

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caseydoug
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2005-Jan-12 12:13 am

said by LilYoda:

Yeah, 3 classes of data + one of VoIP...

That's interesting that it's broken down by voice and data. The SonicWall allows bandwidth management for each rule you set up. So, for example, I can set up an RTP rule allowing inbound traffic on port 13456 to go to the ATA, and as part of this rule I can specify a Guaranteed Bandwidth (in kbps), a Maximum Bandwidth, and a Bandwidth Priority.

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LilYoda

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2005-Jan-12 12:24 am

well, I assigned 72Kbps of bandwidth to Voice traffic (teamspeak server, skype and lingo). the VoIP class is using Low Latency Queuing.
The rest of bandwidth is broken down 60/30/10% with different traffic going into one of the 3 classes, and the 3 data classes are using WRED as queueing mechanism.

I also recolor the traffic within each of the data classes when it gets above the assigned bandwidth, making it more likely to get killed by the queueing engine in case congestion approaches...

I could configure one class per traffic type, but I wanted to save my brain [Primus] Which Router for Lingo? - VOIP Tech Chat (27) Plus I figured I didn't really need that much control [Primus] Which Router for Lingo? - VOIP Tech Chat (28)

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2005-Jan-18 9:14 pm

Well, as promised...
»[Config] QoS+VoIP on a Cisco - sample config
It ain't perfect, but it gets the job done...

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caseydoug
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2005-Jan-19 1:56 am

It's practically plug-and-play, LilYoda. [Primus] Which Router for Lingo? - VOIP Tech Chat (30)

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Yup, almost [Primus] Which Router for Lingo? - VOIP Tech Chat (33)
The cisco equivalent of plug and play was named "Copy & Paste"

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Do I need a special router for VoIP? ›

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What are the requirements for VoIP? ›

A computer, adaptor, or specialized phone is required.

Some VoIP services only work over your computer or a special VoIP phone, while other services allow you to use a traditional phone connected to a VoIP adapter. If you use your computer, you will need some software and an inexpensive microphone.

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For a VoIP phone system to work, you have to have a modem and router, which are part of your existing internet setup. Users make calls from any device that has your call software downloaded. This device can be a smartphone, laptop, or desktop. You can also make calls from a VoIP phone.

What is required to set up a VoIP? ›

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